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A Friendly Talk via msn: My Personal Philosophy of Democracy

After I finish an in silico experiment and done with my modeling work. I got a buzz from my friend via my msn pop-up.

Normally, I'm not an msn user... But, this time, I chatted with him for more than an hour....

The following chats are parts of our "friendly conversations".... If you can finish this conversation, you are a pretty patient individual.

Thanks for your interests though.

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My Friend says: ok
My Friend says: let me cont reading
My Friend says: well...im now at ความคิดเห็นที่ 14
Me says: ok
My Friend says: im done
Me says: ok...
My Friend says: in my personal opinion
My Friend says: first let me say that im not saying that my opinion is the right one
My Friend says: it's just my opinion
My Friend says: ok?
Me says: absolutely
My Friend says: i think the environmental problem is huge
Me says: btw, i'm that mr. a.t.
My Friend says: i know u r
My Friend says: i still remember your penpal
My Friend says: the environmental issues need to be addressed in both short term and long term
My Friend says: long term would include proper government policy, law, budget spending, etc.
Me says: right, i agree.
My Friend says: a few reasons why ppl destroy environment....
My Friend says: 1. is bcuz ppl r STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My Friend says: 2. ppl r STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!
My Friend says: ....repeat that 100 times
Me says: does that make them smarter?
My Friend says: 5555 nope
My Friend says: let me continue
Me says: ok
My Friend says: some r reckless , MugNgai
My Friend says: careless
My Friend says: then some did that bcuz of $
Me says: right
My Friend says: either too greedy.... or just to survive needing to feed family
My Friend says: some don't know of any better choice... they had to make a living
My Friend says: for example, those ten-wheelers
Me says: ok
My Friend says: im sure if they got their trucks fixed to be brandnew with no pollution for free, they would gladly take it
My Friend says: whatever the reasons maybe...
Me says: a perfect world?
My Friend says: i think education would help
Me says: I couldn't agree more.
My Friend says: so at least if they had to do it for whatever reasons, at least they could feel guilty
My Friend says: then government could help to provide way out! to mitigate the problem
My Friend says: etc
My Friend says: if ppl wanna make a living to feed their kids... but if they know that by hurting environment, they r actually hurting their kids and themselve in the long run... they might re-think again or at least ask for help so they could learn how to avoid hurting environment along the wya
Me says: any solutions?
My Friend says: b4 talking about soln
Me says: ok, go on--sorry.
My Friend says: i want to make the point that the problems need to be dealt with as u mentioned... im sorry that whatever happened in the attempt to fix political problems in thailand actually might hv delayed the progress ( ? )
My Friend says: i use the word "might"
Me says: i see your point.
My Friend says: because the political problems existed prior to the coup
Me says: long before that.
My Friend says: the problems lasted for quite a long time with no foreseeable easy way out
Me says: go on.
My Friend says: and ppl suffer mentally
My Friend says: the nation suffer mentally
My Friend says: coup was one suggested (and executed) soln by military leader
Me says: gen. prem?
My Friend says: well.. i was refering to the coup leader Sondhi Boonyaratkalin (not gonna try to think about who's behind all this)
Me says: ok...
My Friend says: no guaranteed that it was the best solution and not knowing that it would solve all the problems it was trying to solve
My Friend says: anyway...it did happen
Me says: i sadly admitted too.
My Friend says: if it hadn't happen, i also didn't see that the previous government cared so much about environment at all! it only cared about its popularity, GDP, and $ and its business
Me says: maybe right.
My Friend says: thaksin in my view is only care about himself
Me says: I cannot judge him that.
My Friend says: if anything else...... he would do things only to increase his popularity wah
My Friend says: he used to talk about eliminating corruption but no action at all
Me says: but i can tell you that he's arrogant.
My Friend says: he talked about so many things and i saw him simply did totally opposite things and acted like he never said or totally amnesia
My Friend says: so i wouldn't want to trust or put any faith on any words that came out of his mouth
Me says: politicians do that always.
My Friend says: not at the same extent, level, or degree..... and poor ppl did not believe those politicians as much as they fooly believed thaksin
My Friend says: false hope..... false dream
Me says: fooly or fully?
My Friend says: they fooly/blindly believed thaksin, in my opinion
My Friend says: taksin didn't even come true on his promises
My Friend says: so what about things he didn't even promise like environment!
Me says: So those people subsisted on false hope... right?
My Friend says: so i don't see any better hope with taksin still in power
Me says: Let me talk a bit, OK?
My Friend says: all the $ that would b to help improving environment will just go into politician's pockets if corruption isn't reduced
My Friend says: sure
My Friend says: oh..b4 u start
My Friend says: let me just say one more thing
Me says: Everything for me starts with philosophy. I will talk to you about human dignity/democracy in my point of view.
Me says: I consider that every human is born equal.
Me says: you, me and other have equal dignity to live and share resources equally.
Me says: regardless of their differing background-- racial, financial, educational.
My Friend says: {earlier before election ... TRT promised to build Skytrain to Ratburana...once they got elected..Taksin said cannot do bcuz not financially justified..then Apirak of Prachateepad (bangkok's governor) said he needed to do to help ppl... then TRT saw ppl really made at TRT so they came back to fight prachateepad that government (TRT) wanna do it and try to stop KOR-TOR-MOR from doing it }
Me says: With this thought, this is the foundation of the word democracy to me.
My Friend says: no problem with your definition of democracy
Me says: I started my career in a very remote area of Thailand. I had a fine chance to be exposed to those people whose lived in a less resources/opportunity.
Me says: From that, I saw differences... but they are still human and, also, my countrymen.
Me says: I couldn't take those differences over equal human dignity.
Me says: I couldn't insult their judgement.
Me says: I couldn't reject their choices.
My Friend says: i agree with human dignity
My Friend says: but not everyone has the same level of education
My Friend says: not everyone has the same needs
Me says: The previous PM exploited them... by selling them false hopes... good dreams with remote chance of materialization.
My Friend says: will u respect them that they hv the right to sell their rights?
My Friend says: if they say they wanna sell their right for $ bcuz they r poor...and its their choices... will u respect that?
Me says: By that, they gave them a shared, equaled right to the PM. But, I still respect their judgements....
Me says: To answer your questions--- Yes, I do...
My Friend says: so u r saying democracy is ok to be for sale
My Friend says: so who's the highest bidder should win?
Me says: No.... I didn't say or imply that by no means.
Me says: What I believe is human is born equal.
My Friend says: but u r respecting the right to sell votes
Me says: No.... you're misinterpreting my expressions.
My Friend says: u r respecting the right when ppl want to do wrong things and hurt others just bcuz they could?
Me says: If they do it with their own free wills, I respect that--- fully.
My Friend says: what does it mean by free wills
Me says: without any external interferences.
Me says: It comes directly from one's judgement.
My Friend says: so if rich ppl just want to bribe their way to power with their own free wills, then it's ok to do so? fair trade agreement with the poor...the poor hv free will to take the $ to help themselve in the short run
Me says: that's their judgements.
Me says: I cannot interfere or intrude into that.
My Friend says: why the law if u can rely on solely on ppl's judgement
Me says: because it's the laws of the people, man!!
My Friend says: u r still not hearing me
Me says: ok, repeat yours then..
My Friend says: free wills doesn't imply the right thing.
My Friend says: your judgement might not b the same as mine... how to settle with it comes to conflict of interest?
Me says: yep... but free wills are the way to drive the country to the way people "would like to".
My Friend says: u wanna cut tree to make log and to furniture and hurt environment... i want to save tree... then how?
Me says: cut one, plant 3, wait and cut again...
My Friend says: free wills does not imply automatic consensus, dude!
Me says: I know... you have another way?
My Friend says: 2 men fell in love with the same girl freewill......then how?
Me says: the girl decides... piece of cake!!
My Friend says: all im trying to say is that free wills doesn't automatically imply the best for society
Me says: I agree...
My Friend says: unless what u do doesn't impact others in the society
My Friend says: when i use the word 'stupid'
My Friend says: i didn't mean that other ppl r inferior
Me says: Dictatorship is the solution, isn't it?
My Friend says: i just mean everyone equally can make some stupid decision... especially when lured or misled or misguided or misinformed or not educated
Me says: My Friend, democracy is an abstract term....Its meaning varies from person to person... but it's the best way to harness people.
Me says: even with that perfect ambiguity.
My Friend says: if u believe in education.... then what u want is to educate ppl
My Friend says: u might believe in some other things as well ...but for the moment....we can agree on education, right?
Me says: That's what I'm doing!! isn't it?
My Friend says: so given that we both r agree on education
Me says: that's right.
My Friend says: if u believe that some ppl r lied to, blindly believe in wrong things, what would u do?
Me says: OK... I think education can give people with good reasonings.... So that's why I will contribute my life to it.
Me says: I can equip people with reasonings but I cannot control their free wills, My Friend..
My Friend says: if some ppl r lied to and told that the poison is the cure... would u stop them fr taking the poison pills first or would u let them take the pills and then later explain when they could see the effect of the poison and then try to save the poor guys?
Me says: I told you... I will give them good reasonings first.... You're using wrong, extreme analogy to "chess" me to the corners...
My Friend says: 5555
Me says: You admit that?
My Friend says: sometimes lives r cruel to them
Me says: Well, that's true...
My Friend says: b4 they r convinced, they might alrdy b on their ways in digging their own graves
Me says: none of my business... it's their free wills.
My Friend says: lucky if the poison is slow acting
My Friend says: well...so won't u say it's none of my business that coup happens as well?
Me says: education is not a one-shot cure... It needs time to resolve people's attitudes... I can wait, can you?
My Friend says: bcuz u/i didn't even hv a chance to try to warn/stop the coup fr happening
Me says: It's not my way to do that.
My Friend says:

My Friend says: i don't support coup
Me says: OK, I believe you.
My Friend says: dunno if u heard taksin said this b4...
Me says: Coup disrupts my belief... That what bothers me most.
My Friend says: taksin once said that he would help the area/town that TRT won first (and put other areas where TRT didn't win election last in the queue aka no help)
My Friend says: and this taksin's statement was widely criticized in public
Me says: sooner or later , Taksin would be gone... sadly he's gone by the worst way in my thoughts.
My Friend says: u r underestimate his power
Me says: I'm respecting my countrymen.
My Friend says: if he's not charged with serious corruptions.... he would remain in power in a long time
My Friend says: unless he choose to quit
Me says: I stand with my last sentence; "I'm respecting my countrymen."
My Friend says: ok...
My Friend says: well....military ppl also came fr one of those countrymen wah
Me says: minority!
Me says: They're abusing the given power that what I would like to say about them.
My Friend says: well...now how about this....
Me says: what?
My Friend says: if ppl who r lied to believe that the poison is the cure
Me says: So be it.
My Friend says: and they use the voting system saying that since the epidermic is around, ...
Me says: So be it.
My Friend says: so everyone should take this pill...bcuz it's democracy... they r majority and winning the vote
My Friend says: so if they win majority votes, u would take posion pill as well?
Me says: I did try my best upon my belief... I couldn't take everything on my shoulder... Am I right?
My Friend says: u r the doctor of the city
Me says: Thanks.
My Friend says: u hv medical knowledge
Me says: Yes, I do.
My Friend says: and u would let the ppl use the voting system just bcuz some crooked person said in his dream this poison is the cure and convinced the majority (not everyone) and won the majority votes and let the minority including the knowledgeable doctor like u taking the poison pills?
Me says: Again, you're using a wrong analogy to corner me!!
My Friend says: im sure if u ask the poor ppl after they all had taken the pill about their opinion if they think u should hv warned them
Me says: This is about philosophical thinkings. Some analogy can be used... but some are unfair...!!
My Friend says: poision pill + lie = popularist policy just to win majority votes with incentives for doing the wrong things so ppl in power can just enjoy corrupting the country and leading the nation into catastrophy
Me says: It doesn't kill instantly!!
My Friend says: medical doctor like u = educated ppl ....
My Friend says: by the time ppl r realized, it's beyond repair.... just like your environment, my dear frnd
Me says: Not exactly... in this analogy... that dr is a person with philosophy with ability to influence people with his/her philosophy.
My Friend says: the problem with your view of democracy make it vulnerable ...in my opinion
Me says: It makes democracy vulnerable... Because you're expecting too much to fast from it, My Friend...
My Friend says: well..... the dr should try to influence ppl to do the right thing?
Me says: I told you before... education is NOT a one-shot cure... it needs time to resolve people's attitude.
Me says: I'm doing what I should do--- you may ask me to more than I could do.
My Friend says: dunno if im expecting too much for it.... if i think everyone is about to take poison pills, i would attempt to stop them first then try to explain why i have to stop them
Me says: Gladly, people don't get kill from your so-called pilled.
My Friend says: to make the situation worse, your fellow doctors r also bribed to support taking the poison pills
Me says: you are unfairly accusing them.
My Friend says: 5555 im just trying to make the point!
My Friend says:

Me says: No, it makes your point worse.
My Friend says: as i said... it's just my opinion and not to say that i was always right
My Friend says: saying again...im not supporting the coup
Me says: I know... I'm not about right or wrong... I'm talking about what I should or shouldn't or could or couldn't. I've two hands as you do, man!!
My Friend says: im just trying to explain how bad the previous government and its overwhelming power was
Me says: If the free wills say so, so be it!!
My Friend says: so you don't respect the military ppl's free wills ?
Me says: nope!! I can stand before and against it in public!! and I mean it!!
My Friend says: sure but it alrdy happened
My Friend says: it's alrdy in the past
Me says: It will happen again.
My Friend says: i think Aj.KaewSan+ made a very good point about this
My Friend says: u should watch the interview vdo
Me says: ok, go on.
My Friend says: he also said why he and his team were doing what they were doing to try to prevent the future coup
Me says: they apparently failed, I presumed!
My Friend says: no no
My Friend says: he and his team is investigating corruption accusation of previous government
Me says: then?
My Friend says: i think u will agree with lots of what he said
Me says: If you said so.
My Friend says: go here http://hiptv.mcot.net/
Me says: I sure will.
My Friend says: click on ถึงลูกถึงคน
Me says: ok
My Friend says: and click on ความคืบหน้า คตส. 10 พ.ย. 49
Me says: ok
My Friend says: he is the previous SorWor
Me says: ok..
My Friend says: and very vocal and active and brave
My Friend says: he also is against the concept of hving coup in future
My Friend says: ok
Me says: hmmmm, reasons?
My Friend says: i think listening to Aj.KaewSan+ would b better than listening to me wah 555
Me says: OK... give me a minute.
My Friend says: sure
My Friend says: take your time ...u can skip the tv commercial by fast fwding too
My Friend says: u might need to select appropriate speed 128K, etc.
Me says: well.... not bad...
My Friend says: hope u like it
Me says: most of it, I do.
My Friend says: don't hv to agree with him
My Friend says: but hope u like listening to what he has to say
Me says: I got my free will, remember?
My Friend says: sure
Me says: 55555
My Friend says: and really everyone has his/her own free will except we r all a slave of our ki-les. in my opinion again
Me says: I got to go back to my modeling work now... we've been "discussing" for 1.5 hours, I believe.
My Friend says: sure
Me says: night!!
My Friend says: nite nite
My Friend says: good talking to u
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really long ..

just cut at my favorite part..
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Me says: nope!! I can stand before and against it in public!! and I mean it!!
My Friend says: sure but it alrdy happened
My Friend says: it's alrdy in the past
Me says: It will happen again.
My Friend says: i think Aj.KaewSan+ made a very good point about this
My Friend says: u should watch the interview vdo
Me says: ok, go on.
My Friend says: he also said why he and his team were doing what they were doing to try to prevent the future coup
Me says: they apparently failed, I presumed!
My Friend says: no no
My Friend says: he and his team is investigating corruption accusation of previous government
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1. เรื่องทุจริตคอรัปชั่น ก็อาจจะจริง สามารถอ้างได้ แต่จำเป็นต้องถึงขนาดก่อ coup เลยหรือ? รัฐบาลก่อน ๆ ในอดีตที่ไม่เคยทุจริตเลย มีด้วยหรือ? ถ้าคิดแบบนี้ คุณก็ต้อง coup มันเรื่อยไปทุกรัฐบาลนั่นแหละครับ

2. อ.แก้วสรร ถึงจะออกมาพูดว่าเพื่อปกป้องประชาธิปไตย ปกป้องประเทศชาติ ก็จริงในส่วนหนึ่ง ผลประโยชน์ของประเทศบางส่วนอาจจะเสียหายจากนโยบายทักษิณ แล้วผลประโยชน์ที่เสียหายจากการปฏิวัติ ไม่ทราบว่า อ.แก้วสรร และนักวิชาการอื่น ๆ มีคำตอบให้กับสังคมได้อย่างไร

3. อ.แก้วสรรและนักวิชาการอื่น ๆ ไม่มีทางป้องกันการปฏิวัติในอนาคตได้หรอก อย่าสำคัญตนผิด ใครจะคิดว่าทหารจะกลับมาอีก หลังพฤษภาทมิฬ มันก็กลับมาได้ เพราะคนอย่างพวกคุณ ๆ ที่ไปสนับสนุน ตอนนี้เหมือนคุณปลุกผีออกมาจากหลุมแล้ว จะให้ผีกลับลงไปในหลุมน่ะ ไม่ได้ง่ายหรอกครับ ระบบอะไรมันเสียไปหมดแล้ว ความเชื่อมั่นต่าง ๆ โครงสร้างอำนาจของเมืองไทย มันกลับไปหาสมดุลเก่า ๆ ก่อนยุคพฤษภาทมิฬ ยุคเปรม อีก ไม่รู้เมื่อไรอำนาจจะกลับมาสู่ประชาชนได้อย่างแท้จริงอีกครั้ง...


โดย: ฺBF IP: 171.64.47.38 วันที่: 16 พฤศจิกายน 2549 เวลา:1:06:25 น.  

 
ขออนุญาตกลับมาอ่านบล็อกทีหลังค่ะ เพราะมันยาวมาก และภาษาอังกฤษวิคไม่ค่อยแข็งแรงค่ะ อีกอย่างตอนนี้ที่นี่จะตีสองแล้วค่ะ
เข้ามาบอกว่าขอบคุณที่แวะไปเยี่ยมที่บล็อกค่ะ (แม้ว่าจะไม่ยอมไป shopping ด้วยกันก็เถอะ อิ อิ) และจะบอกว่าเราไปคอมเมนท์ในกระทู้ นร.นอก ห่างกัน 2 นาทีเองค่ะ

กู๊ดไนท์นะคะ


โดย: the Vicky วันที่: 16 พฤศจิกายน 2549 เวลา:7:06:18 น.  

 
เป็นที่รู้กันดีว่า Knave คือ ไพ่ที่สูงกว่า 10 แต่ ต่ำกว่า Queen หรือ Jack....


ทางเศรษฐศาสตร์ให้การวิเคราะห์ไว้ใน 3 รูปแบบ

1. Fallacy of Compositon ความหลงผิดว่าสิ่งที่เป็นจริงสำหรับส่วนย่อย จะเป็นจริงสำหรับส่วนรวมเสมอไป

2. Fallacy of Division ความหลงผิดในการวิภาคว่าสิ่งที่เป็นจริงสำหรับส่วนรวม จะต้องเป็นจริงสำหรับส่วนย่อยด้วย

3. Fallacy of Faulse Cause ความหลงผิดในสาเหตุ เป็นการเข้าใจผิดโดยเอาสิ่งที่ไม่ใช่สาเหตุมาเป็นสาเหตุ

การวิเคราะห์นี้เป็นปรัชญาระดับสูง แต่เมื่อวิภาคลงไปลึกๆเป็นเพียงปรัชญาพื้นฐานแท้ๆ เลย


โดย: Belladonna IP: 202.41.187.247 วันที่: 17 พฤศจิกายน 2549 เวลา:13:24:52 น.  

 
อ่านจบแล้ว... แต่ไม่ได้ไปดูอ.แก้วสรรนะคะ
ไม่ขอแสดงความคิดเห็นอะไรมากแล้วกัน
บอกแค่ว่ารู้สึกดีที่ได้อ่านความคิดเห็นแบบนี้ค่ะ
จริงๆนะ เพราะรู้สึกว่าคนที่คิดแบบนี้หายากมากกก


โดย: r k i วันที่: 18 พฤศจิกายน 2549 เวลา:9:21:41 น.  

 
แวะมาเยี่ยมค่ะคุณ A.T.


โดย: the Vicky วันที่: 22 พฤศจิกายน 2549 เวลา:4:28:09 น.  

 
มาเยี่ยมอีกแล้วค่ะ อย่าโหมงานหนักนะคะ


โดย: the Vicky วันที่: 28 พฤศจิกายน 2549 เวลา:4:35:39 น.  

 
A very longgggggggggg talk.

ไม่รู้ว่าเมื่อยมือบ้างหรือเปล่า



โดย: PatPDX IP: 72.201.17.28 วันที่: 4 ธันวาคม 2549 เวลา:4:44:12 น.  

 
Thank you for visiting my blog krub!!

I am waiting for the responses from the universities I've applied for. Hope that one of the five would eventually accept me.

I'm not counting much on the ones in the west and the middle now. The one in the south would also be just as great. (I mean Baylor College of Medicine in Texas)

And I am considerably happy and fine as you've said. A little bit anxious and excited, I might add.

BTW, your ideas are remarkable! Took me some time to read all of them but it was surely worth the time!

Thank you for being so nice and considerate. I will always appreciate the help you've given krub, even though you've told me time and time again not to be too grateful nor to thank you too much for it!

PS. You are always most welcome to visit my blog krub. It's my little shrine for the subjects that I love the most, music and English.


โดย: ruiN วันที่: 4 ธันวาคม 2549 เวลา:20:30:30 น.  

 
Just got the GRE subject test score today krub. I got 800 with the percentile of 89%!!! I'm overjoyed!

Hope this would be a good compensation for the mess I've made on the analytical writing!


โดย: ruiN วันที่: 7 ธันวาคม 2549 เวลา:0:23:05 น.  

 
แวะมาเยี่ยมค่ะ ขอให้จบเร็วๆ นะคะจะได้กลับไปอยู่ "บ้าน" ที่ซื้อซะทีค่ะ


โดย: the Vicky วันที่: 8 ธันวาคม 2549 เวลา:21:17:39 น.  

 
ปั่นอยู่แน่ๆเลย...
แต่ท่าทางคงไม่เครียดนะคะ นึกภาพพี่ a.t. เครียดไม่ออกเหมือนกัน
เพราะพี่ a.t. ดูเป็นคนใจเย็นและเตรียมพร้อมทุกสถานการณ์ (... เนอะ?)

จะจบแล้ว สู้ๆนะคะ เป็นกำลังใจให้

ปล. ขอบคุณพี่ a.t.ที่มาแบ่งปันเรื่องราวดีๆกันอยู่เสมอนะคะ


โดย: r k i IP: 68.117.208.237 วันที่: 9 ธันวาคม 2549 เวลา:11:00:40 น.  

 
วันนี้เรียนวันสุดท้ายของเทอมนี้ สบายใจเลยแวะมาเยี่ยมค่ะ อย่าทำงานหักโหมนะคะคุณ AT


โดย: the Vicky วันที่: 15 ธันวาคม 2549 เวลา:4:28:10 น.  

 

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year 2007 ค่ะ

ขอให้มีสุขภาพแข็งแรง สุขกาย สบายจิต
ปีใหม่ คิดใหม่ทำใหม่ คิดดีทำดี
คิดเงินได้เงิน คิดทองได้ทอง (รวยก็อย่าลืมแบ่งกันมั่ง )
คิดอยากได้ของขวัญก็ขอให้ได้เป็นกองใหญ่ ๆ เลยค่ะ
ไปเที่ยวช่วงปีใหม่ก็ระมัดระวังตัวด้วยนะคะ




โดย: Susie วันที่: 24 ธันวาคม 2549 เวลา:23:40:49 น.  

 
Happy New Year2007 ka. ;)


โดย: The phu วันที่: 1 มกราคม 2550 เวลา:0:25:50 น.  

 
Just wanted to wish you good health and happiness in the year ahead.


โดย: Rive Gauche วันที่: 2 มกราคม 2550 เวลา:9:16:39 น.  

 


โดย: Jose IP: 82.198.52.190 วันที่: 21 พฤษภาคม 2550 เวลา:3:20:18 น.  

 


โดย: Ben IP: 84.121.213.177 วันที่: 21 พฤษภาคม 2550 เวลา:20:37:33 น.  

 


โดย: Ethan IP: 200.127.41.221 วันที่: 24 พฤษภาคม 2550 เวลา:7:56:42 น.  

 


โดย: Giancarlo IP: 213.60.105.199 วันที่: 1 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:11:31:29 น.  

 


โดย: Griffin IP: 88.7.42.186 วันที่: 3 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:19:43:12 น.  

 


โดย: Seth IP: 81.172.19.62 วันที่: 5 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:9:55:08 น.  

 


โดย: Darian IP: 201.248.59.47 วันที่: 6 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:4:40:56 น.  

 


โดย: Vincent IP: 190.32.61.54 วันที่: 7 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:1:52:45 น.  

 


โดย: Mathew IP: 80.38.232.51 วันที่: 7 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:23:04:15 น.  

 


โดย: Jarrod IP: 80.35.199.223 วันที่: 9 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:20:44:48 น.  

 


โดย: Colten IP: 201.211.93.122 วันที่: 10 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:21:42:59 น.  

 


โดย: Christian IP: 190.38.247.123 วันที่: 11 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:22:03:23 น.  

 


โดย: Jerry IP: 190.38.25.87 วันที่: 12 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:21:02:42 น.  

 


โดย: Roland IP: 83.92.113.83 วันที่: 13 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:19:58:22 น.  

 
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โดย: Dopehuns IP: 68.100.128.74 วันที่: 16 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:16:02:54 น.  

 


โดย: Duncan IP: 82.234.141.10 วันที่: 17 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:0:00:42 น.  

 


โดย: Jered IP: 201.132.68.236 วันที่: 18 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:1:14:09 น.  

 
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โดย: ypbceurm eonthrv IP: 195.245.173.107 วันที่: 18 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:16:22:02 น.  

 
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โดย: fogrkmda wkrxin IP: 89.165.152.61 วันที่: 18 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:16:22:33 น.  

 
dcproxyg ozatm cxyv pyckd jbafgi xindc lxojnrwms esyhab ewvy


โดย: epcdsta vitju IP: 67.83.32.41 วันที่: 18 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:16:22:54 น.  

 


โดย: Conor IP: 80.35.199.223 วันที่: 19 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:2:00:12 น.  

 


โดย: Barry IP: 62.197.71.108 วันที่: 20 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:3:25:06 น.  

 


โดย: Josiah IP: 80.59.40.202 วันที่: 21 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:5:13:30 น.  

 


โดย: Fidel IP: 70.82.209.158 วันที่: 22 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:10:47:14 น.  

 


โดย: Hayden IP: 70.83.58.160 วันที่: 23 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:12:59:59 น.  

 


โดย: James IP: 81.202.205.140 วันที่: 24 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:14:11:09 น.  

 


โดย: Ashley IP: 88.7.43.43 วันที่: 25 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:15:29:57 น.  

 


โดย: Clayton IP: 62.195.56.166 วันที่: 27 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:11:18:20 น.  

 


โดย: Lazaro IP: 201.244.167.178 วันที่: 28 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:21:52:44 น.  

 


โดย: Nathan IP: 80.37.91.75 วันที่: 29 มิถุนายน 2550 เวลา:22:33:56 น.  

 


โดย: Oscar IP: 82.159.241.161 วันที่: 1 กรกฎาคม 2550 เวลา:1:21:43 น.  

 


โดย: Brennan IP: 190.16.42.190 วันที่: 2 กรกฎาคม 2550 เวลา:5:58:13 น.  

 


โดย: Randal IP: 189.25.208.215 วันที่: 3 กรกฎาคม 2550 เวลา:11:07:51 น.  

 


โดย: Chase IP: 190.49.206.167 วันที่: 7 กรกฎาคม 2550 เวลา:4:13:17 น.  

 


โดย: Nathaniel IP: 200.115.217.116 วันที่: 8 กรกฎาคม 2550 เวลา:10:24:01 น.  

 


โดย: Benjamin IP: 200.182.182.232 วันที่: 9 กรกฎาคม 2550 เวลา:19:53:09 น.  

 


โดย: Martin IP: 190.51.164.45 วันที่: 11 กรกฎาคม 2550 เวลา:4:44:53 น.  

 


โดย: Keenan IP: 116.32.125.157 วันที่: 12 กรกฎาคม 2550 เวลา:11:57:39 น.  

 


โดย: Abram IP: 190.77.39.191 วันที่: 13 กรกฎาคม 2550 เวลา:18:40:25 น.  

 


โดย: Kwame IP: 80.35.199.223 วันที่: 15 กรกฎาคม 2550 เวลา:1:57:00 น.  

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Note: My life has been intertwined with works and many others. New responsibility has emerged, resulting less and less time for my ordinary life. Although, a love to write is still intact... But having less time is related to having less imagination.... Therefore, I could not come up with new writings for quite some times.

It might be a good time for me to leave this forum for moment.... Please take it as Mr. A.T. is having a sabbactatical leave or something like that....

As noted above, my love to write is still the same... and will not be changed. Sometimes somehow, I hope I could come back and give some thoughts in this blog once more.

Cheers,
Mr. A.T.
June 6th, 2008

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Hello,

My pen-name in Pantip is amatuer translator. Actually, I'm a lousy translator with lame translation. My pen-name is somewhat misleading, I have no background in linguistics what-so-ever. Anyway I love to read, write and communicate with people...

Reading is my most favorite hobby. I read everything from shopping bags to articles in theoretical physics. I do research and teaching for my living. So, reading, writing, thinking and doing research works are my everyday routine.

I would like to define myself as a person who is accepting new ideas and adopting those into my way of life.

I believe in power of knowledge/education. I think every society can be a better society with knowledge. Ignorance can be dispelled by it. Humanity can live sustainably and harmoniously with each other along with its biosphere with understandings in the nature surrounding it.

Apart from my philosophical thoughts reflecting who I am, I can tell you something I like or love in particular;

I love dogs.... Particularly, labradore retrievers.... One day, I would like to spend my time and life with them as a big part of my family.

Zhuge Liang is my hero. With his wisdom and faithfulness, he led a tiny army to a mighty and formidable kingdom. He left his humble residence with a hope to come back. But, sadly, he had never returned and died far far away from home in a horse carriage in a battle field. If I could choose where I would, I would say where-ever my lovely wife was nearby.

I value happiness and my family as my first priority. My profession and my philosophy come in the second. Pursuit in wealth has never been in my desire.

I'm glad to be your friend, and look forward to seeing you around krub.

Best wishes,
A.T.
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